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2nd Coming of Christ

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7th October 2006  Updated 13th January 2007

Hi Guys,

Got some particular understanding of the 2nd coming. Please let me know your understanding if you see it another way. This is a little lengthy, but I feel it is important at this time. It may come as a shock to some of you. But it's a good kind of shock.

We start with a few verses (reading from the modern king james version). Please read the chapters.

John 6:39  And this is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all which He has given Me I should lose nothing but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40  And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes on Him should have everlasting life. And I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:24  Martha said to Him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
John 11:25  Jesus said to her, I am the Resurrection and the Life! He who believes in Me, though he die, yet he shall live.
John 11:26  And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?

John 12:48 He who rejects Me and does not receive My Words has one who judges him; the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ shall rise first.
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall ever be with the Lord.

1Th 5:4  But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the Day should overtake you like a thief.
1Th 5:10  ...who died for us, so that whether we watch or sleep we should live together with Him.

Rev 20:4 ....And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5  But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 20:11  And I saw a great white throne, and Him sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And a place was not found for them.

Okay. Let's get started.

I believe in the forceful 'seizing, plucking' of the living saints of God.
Some have wished to call it the rapture, using Jerome's latin vulgate translation - 'rapiemur' for the greek word 'harpazo' - which means to seize, to pluck.

(Look at every occurance : Matt11:12, Matt13:19,  John 6:15, John10:28, Acts8:39, Acts23:10, 2Cor12:2, Rev12:5)

I however believe that this 'seizing' of the living saints IS 'the first resurrection' that includes the dead in Christ that He brings with Him at His coming.

From the scriptural evidence, I believe the 'seizing' means a forceful putting away of our physical bodies by the glorified body that is similar to that which Christ has. The glorified body 'seizes on, plucks away' our physical body (as if by surprise), so that we are totally changed. As 1 John3:2 says, 'we shall be like Him when He appears'. It doesn't imply an unclothing first, but a forceful clothing upon.

We see Him (so the element of surprise is kind of lost), but that glorified body seizes us, and that definitely will be a 'shock' to our system!

'Plucked away'  is used because it is out of our control. God controls the timing of the glorification.

I know some will lament that they believe they will be raptured before the tribulation to be with the Lord in the air forever. But the scriptures rather say 'so shall we ever be with the Lord'. That is, we shall remain in this new state with the Lord, it won't be taken from us! Just as Jesus remains with a glorified body. Did you notice that Jesus is coming down and we are meeting Him in our atmosphere? There is no returning back to heaven!

Did you read John 11:24-25 above? This IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION!! Those who are dead will live by getting the glorified body; those who are alive at His coming will not die, but be glorified. This IS The Blessed Hope!!

John 6:39-40 speaks of the 'last day'.
I believe this term means the 'last day' before the Great white throne (Rev 20:11). An entirely new time period comes into force after this 'last day'. I believe this 'last day' implies the last 1000 year stretch of this current earth pattern. Satan is then released briefly to deceive, but there won't be another "usual" 1000-year stretch.

After this last 1000-year stretch comes the Great white throne judgment, with  the general resurrection - which is the 2nd resurrection. Matt25:32-46 goes into detail about this 2nd or general resurrection. The sheep and the goats scenario.

But remember that the 2nd resurrection also includes those whose names are in the book of life - who did not watch for their Master's coming but became slothful. This is dealt with in more detail in Luke 12:45-48. They are given their 'portion' with the unbelievers, which is 'not ruling in the 1000-year reign and having to appear before the great white throne'.

I do not know the nature of the wounds received, but I feel Apostle Paul looked into it in 1Cor3:12-15. That is when a saint's work is tried and found wanting, he shall suffer loss (the Greek word for 'loss' here is zemioo -injury). Not an injury to her body, but an injury to her works.

Finally, those who are doing what is pleasing to Him, won't be surprised when He comes - they will be glad. But the glorified body will be a pleasant shock! Those who are not doing what is pleasing to Him, His coming will be hidden -like a thief in the night- they will be surprised because they will find out they have missed out on the special prize.

Apostle Peter calls this seizing, this 1st resurrection 'receiving a Crown of Glory'. 1Pet5:4. It is a glory that doesn't fade, it won't be taken away from us.

Now doesn't this sound so much better than running away!!

Remember Jesus' words - John17:15. 'I do not pray for You to take them out of the world, but for You to keep them from the evil.'

Therefore, go about your duty.
Those who have a hidden ministry of prayer and  shining His Light in the work place, continue. Those who have an open ministry of teaching and serving the saints, continue.

He will keep us from the evil!!

Stay blessed in Him,


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